Comments on: Ooof es nor tarin el…!!! http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/ Journalism and Photography from Armenia and the Surrounding Region Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:51:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: nika http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-581 Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:09:24 +0000 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-581 Finally, someone put it out there and spelled it out clearly about how insane we tend to get with out New Years preparations. I applaud to this. Maybe the number of the exhausted has increased, or perhaps more ppl have run into this post, but it seems that holidays this year are being taken easier... lets hope that some day there will be an end to a 10 day marathon dolma eating, pastry stuffing, vodka drinking insanity Finally, someone put it out there and spelled it out clearly about how insane we tend to get with out New Years preparations. I applaud to this. Maybe the number of the exhausted has increased, or perhaps more ppl have run into this post, but it seems that holidays this year are being taken easier… lets hope that some day there will be an end to a 10 day marathon dolma eating, pastry stuffing, vodka drinking insanity

]]> by: Zarchka http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-574 Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:27:30 +0000 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-574 Thank you Anna for your opinions. I agree with your mentioning that Armenia is a unique country in itself, which is expressed in our traditions and customs. I am the great follower of most of that traditions, which Europe, morover America must envy for not having. Those traditions lead us throughout the years , and I dare to say, they kept us Armenians. I am a great patriot, don't even doubt about it. Furthermore my interests regarding East are more than those regarding West. Here I didn't mean blind following of Europe or so. May be I am repeated but I wanted to finger out the problems which people face while celebrating New Year when they are in dry dock. There's also a good Armenian saying which we can follow as well- «Vermakid gyora votqerd dzgir». So why to make our life harder? Easy way of living-this is what we can take from Europeans. I don't mean changing of the tradition and what is more I am against it in a way. Just we can be progressive and not to stаmp in the place. I love my nation, I love my country, that is why its future bothers me. Thank you Anna for your opinions. I agree with your mentioning that Armenia is a unique country in itself, which is expressed in our traditions and customs. I am the great follower of most of that traditions, which Europe, morover America must envy for not having. Those traditions lead us throughout the years , and I dare to say, they kept us Armenians. I am a great patriot, don’t even doubt about it. Furthermore my interests regarding East are more than those regarding West.
Here I didn’t mean blind following of Europe or so. May be I am repeated but I wanted to finger out the problems which people face while celebrating New Year when they are in dry dock. There’s also a good Armenian saying which we can follow as well- «Vermakid gyora votqerd dzgir». So why to make our life harder? Easy way of living-this is what we can take from Europeans. I don’t mean changing of the tradition and what is more I am against it in a way. Just we can be progressive and not to stаmp in the place. I love my nation, I love my country, that is why its future bothers me.

]]> by: Anna http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-572 Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:23:25 +0000 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-572 Reading all the opinions mantioned above i'd like to share my point of view too. First what i'd like to say it's that remember always that this is Armenia, maybe it was said about this 1000 times, but i prefer to specify again: Armenia is an old country that has survived due to its hard working , talented people and traditions coming from the ancient times. What is interesting why people keep on seeing Armenia in a different way, because every country on this planet is an unic and beautiful by its people and their lifestyle. Everything written above coresspondes to the reality, but Armenia is what it is, what can we do? Now it's an unic nation , really not very developed from the financial aspect, but it's developing , and here we shouldn't forget that being a sovereign country for only 14 years Armenia can't be on a level with Europe and USA. As russians say " Moscow wasn't built in one day", so Armenia also can't be so developed and rich country in such a short period.Let's be tolerant towards our country, because you like homeland not because it's a superpower, but because it's yours. Besides let's not to forget that the East is different from the Europe and US. Just imagine that the whole world is the same , that they celebrate the holidays in a same way, so it would be very boring and uninteresting , in fact there would be nothing to learn and talk about. With all this i want to ask you not to change the lifestyle of the whole nation, but understand it in its unic way, try to differenciate the East from the Europe , cause they are different from each other by their cultures and people.Armenia is more eastern country than western, and its traditions are eastern , so try to understand and love it. Happy New Year Armenia! Reading all the opinions mantioned above i’d like to share my point of view too. First what i’d like to say it’s that remember always that this is Armenia, maybe it was said about this 1000 times, but i prefer to specify again: Armenia is an old country that has survived due to its hard working , talented people and traditions coming from the ancient times. What is interesting why people keep on seeing Armenia in a different way, because every country on this planet is an unic and beautiful by its people and their lifestyle.
Everything written above coresspondes to the reality, but Armenia is what it is, what can we do? Now it’s an unic nation , really not very developed from the financial aspect, but it’s developing , and here we shouldn’t forget that being a sovereign country for only 14 years Armenia can’t be on a level with Europe and USA. As russians say ” Moscow wasn’t built in one day”, so Armenia also can’t be so developed and rich country in such a short period.Let’s be tolerant towards our country, because you like homeland not because it’s a superpower, but because it’s yours. Besides let’s not to forget that the East is different from the Europe and US. Just imagine that the whole world is the same , that they celebrate the holidays in a same way, so it would be very boring and uninteresting , in fact there would be nothing to learn and talk about.
With all this i want to ask you not to change the lifestyle of the whole nation, but understand it in its unic way, try to differenciate the East from the Europe , cause they are different from each other by their cultures and people.Armenia is more eastern country than western, and its traditions are eastern , so try to understand and love it.

Happy New Year Armenia!

]]> by: Zarchka http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-566 Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:10:11 +0000 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-566 I’m very thankful Nanul to you for telling your opinions , that is of great importance for me. Just I wanted to describe the real situation not mentioning the emotional side of Armenian New Year. Right you are, this is another opportunity to meet relatives, friends and the people you happen to meet seldom because of lack of time or busyness. I cannot deny it. Though this is also an occasion to behave in an affected manner and by visiting your boss let him tick off that you have great respect regarding his person. I’m not a pessimist at all, but I have a realistic stand point as well. I want to point out the disadvantages of celebrating New Year in such a way. Of course advantages are dime a dozen, among them those “jigyarov” hugs that one can’t see in other countries. That’s just great when you feel so much warm. We don’t need counting them, we can feel it. But when money is played out and earning of it is in question we can forget about all the joyous moments.. Now you made me hum and haw, probably I had to write my optimistic views.. Which one would be more consulting? … but nay..!! We must keep what we have, but aspire for the better and not let it sit there as a stone. It has to be made like bread, remade all the time, made new. I’m very thankful Nanul to you for telling your opinions , that is of great importance for me. Just I wanted to describe the real situation not mentioning the emotional side of Armenian New Year. Right you are, this is another opportunity to meet relatives, friends and the people you happen to meet seldom because of lack of time or busyness. I cannot deny it. Though this is also an occasion to behave in an affected manner and by visiting your boss let him tick off that you have great respect regarding his person.
I’m not a pessimist at all, but I have a realistic stand point as well. I want to point out the disadvantages of celebrating New Year in such a way. Of course advantages are dime a dozen, among them those “jigyarov” hugs that one can’t see in other countries. That’s just great when you feel so much warm. We don’t need counting them, we can feel it. But when money is played out and earning of it is in question we can forget about all the joyous moments..
Now you made me hum and haw, probably I had to write my optimistic views.. Which one would be more consulting? … but nay..!! We must keep what we have, but aspire for the better and not let it sit there as a stone. It has to be made like bread, remade all the time, made new.

]]> by: Onnik http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-564 Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:36:39 +0000 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-564 Abres, Zarchka. You made Global Voices Daily Roundup: <a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/2005/12/26/armenia-ooof">http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/2005/12/26/armenia-ooof</a> I hope this encourages you to write more from time to time, and for others to join you. Thanks. Abres, Zarchka.

You made Global Voices Daily Roundup:

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/2005/12/26/armenia-ooof

I hope this encourages you to write more from time to time, and for others to join you.

Thanks.

]]> by: Nanul http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-562 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:54:02 +0000 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-562 Great post Zarochka! I used to feel exactly the same way, when I was living in Armenia. I agree that most of the people don’t have means to celebrate New Year the way they are trying to celebrate and feel pressured to keep up with others. However, after living several years abroad, I look at things from completely different perspective. Here are the things that I like and miss about the Armenian New Year celebrations: 1) All the sincere hugs and kisses and best wishes that you get from your family, extended family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc. You can get those hugs everywhere, the difference is the sheer amount and the frequency you are being exposed to them It is not just mere gift giving/opening ceremony:-) “Jigyarov” hugs and smiles are more preferable than the FedEx-ed gifts and electronic greetings from remote places and countries. During New Year celebtrations in Armenia you get such a huge dose of positive energy that it keeps you going for the rest of the year. 2) The shopping excitement and the cooking chaos (accompanied with women’s whining) that lead to the mid-night kickoff (more preferred than seeing people sitting in their offices and treating the Dec. 31 as another routine day of the year). 5) The cheesy TV programming that creates some kind of holiday atmosphere:-) 3) Parties and get-togethers that last about two weeks. Why prepare for New Year celebrations for two months and end it in one night with a dinner? You are just warming up… how can you stop it on Jan 1?:-) 4) The laid-back attitude that’s everywhere in the first t two weeks of the New Year. Hey, it is a New Year, let’s take it easy:-) 5) Holiday celebrations that has nothing to do with any religion. It is built around New Year and you don’t have to think what the most politically correct greeting would be for this or that person—Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanza, etc.? Finally, the New Year is perhaps the only Armenian holiday that everybody tries to celebrate, to party and have some good time regardless of all the hardships and problems that people face on a daily basis in Armenia. Since we are celebrating it anyway, we might as well try to have as much fun as possible. Happy New Year! Great post Zarochka! I used to feel exactly the same way, when I was living in Armenia. I agree that most of the people don’t have means to celebrate New Year the way they are trying to celebrate and feel pressured to keep up with others. However, after living several years abroad, I look at things from completely different perspective.

Here are the things that I like and miss about the Armenian New Year celebrations:
1) All the sincere hugs and kisses and best wishes that you get from your family, extended family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc. You can get those hugs everywhere, the difference is the sheer amount and the frequency you are being exposed to them It is not just mere gift giving/opening ceremony:-) “Jigyarov” hugs and smiles are more preferable than the FedEx-ed gifts and electronic greetings from remote places and countries. During New Year celebtrations in Armenia you get such a huge dose of positive energy that it keeps you going for the rest of the year.

2) The shopping excitement and the cooking chaos (accompanied with women’s whining) that lead to the mid-night kickoff (more preferred than seeing people sitting in their offices and treating the Dec. 31 as another routine day of the year).

5) The cheesy TV programming that creates some kind of holiday atmosphere:-)

3) Parties and get-togethers that last about two weeks. Why prepare for New Year celebrations for two months and end it in one night with a dinner? You are just warming up… how can you stop it on Jan 1?:-)

4) The laid-back attitude that’s everywhere in the first t two weeks of the New Year. Hey, it is a New Year, let’s take it easy:-)

5) Holiday celebrations that has nothing to do with any religion. It is built around New Year and you don’t have to think what the most politically correct greeting would be for this or that person—Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanza, etc.?

Finally, the New Year is perhaps the only Armenian holiday that everybody tries to celebrate, to party and have some good time regardless of all the hardships and problems that people face on a daily basis in Armenia. Since we are celebrating it anyway, we might as well try to have as much fun as possible.

Happy New Year!

]]> by: Myrthe http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-559 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:22:51 +0000 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2005/12/25/ooof-es-nor-tarin-el/#comment-559 Great post, Zarchka! I am looking forward to reading more! I have a friend who is a shopkeeper in a small town and he told me that in the days leading up to New Year it is so busy. But then, after New Year it is quiet in his shop until the end of March, because people have no money left to spend. I always have a double feeling about the Armenian way of celebrating New Year. On the one hand I really enjoy some of those get-togethers with friends and I have some really good memories of New Year's celebrations in Armenia. But on the other I know how much of a strain it is on people's finances and on the women spending days in the kitchen. I feel sorry about that. And after a while the food and the drinks just get too much! And then there are the people who are offended when you don't show up. Every year people are complaining about New Year, but every year they keep on preparing the huge tables with food. Because that's the way it is done and because everybody else does it like that. There should be a way to opt out for those who don't want to go through the hassle or who simply can't afford it! Great post, Zarchka! I am looking forward to reading more!
I have a friend who is a shopkeeper in a small town and he told me that in the days leading up to New Year it is so busy. But then, after New Year it is quiet in his shop until the end of March, because people have no money left to spend.
I always have a double feeling about the Armenian way of celebrating New Year. On the one hand I really enjoy some of those get-togethers with friends and I have some really good memories of New Year’s celebrations in Armenia. But on the other I know how much of a strain it is on people’s finances and on the women spending days in the kitchen. I feel sorry about that. And after a while the food and the drinks just get too much! And then there are the people who are offended when you don’t show up.
Every year people are complaining about New Year, but every year they keep on preparing the huge tables with food. Because that’s the way it is done and because everybody else does it like that. There should be a way to opt out for those who don’t want to go through the hassle or who simply can’t afford it!

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