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	<title>Comments on: Indian Students in Yerevan Demand Justice</title>
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		<title>by: Inesa (Armenian Student Abroad)</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1535</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:22:20 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>The author of comment 7 is a wonderful example of a racist, in the worst sense of the word, since it is directed to someone within his race and nation, what to wait from such kind of person if not hostility towards other nations...aparently, the person cannot TOLERATE another person's successful work (Onnik's article in this case, I wouldn't be surprised if that is someone among his colleagues)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The author of comment 7 is a wonderful example of a racist, in the worst sense of the word, since it is directed to someone within his race and nation, what to wait from such kind of person if not hostility towards other nations&#8230;aparently, the person cannot TOLERATE another person&#8217;s successful work (Onnik&#8217;s article in this case, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if that is someone among his colleagues)&#8230;
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		<title>by: Zarchka</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1531</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:04:45 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I’ve just watched news on Armenia TV, where they announced that an Indian student had fallen down from dormitory window, that they already know the results of examination  and that the Medical University will cover all the expenses with transferring the body to India. They shot pieces of yesterday's demonstration. Therefore they didn’t say anything about students rebelling and demanding to fire the rector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I’ve just watched news on Armenia TV, where they announced that an Indian student had fallen down from dormitory window, that they already know the results of examination  and that the Medical University will cover all the expenses with transferring the body to India. They shot pieces of yesterday&#8217;s demonstration. Therefore they didn’t say anything about students rebelling and demanding to fire the rector.
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		<title>by: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1529</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:55:46 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Interestingly, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.armenianow.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Armenia Now&lt;/a&gt; didn't cover the death of the student. This is particularly strange given that it was perhaps the most newsworthy event of the week in Yerevan. Regardless, it &quot;fits&quot; in with my comments that appear to have incurred the wrath of &quot;someone&quot; in connection to the state of civil society and the media in Armenia.

I'm also a bit disappointed that RFE/RL didn't cover the story on its English-language news pages although it's main audience are radio listeners. The audio of the broadcast is probably already on yesterday's archive page at http://www.rferl.org. Maybe they'll have something later online although as I said, its radio coverage is probably more important. 

Still, it has to be said that this was quite a show of strength and unity by Indian students in Armenia. Seen nothing like it from Armenians in the 7 years I've been here.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interestingly, <a href="http://www.armenianow.com" rel="nofollow">Armenia Now</a> didn&#8217;t cover the death of the student. This is particularly strange given that it was perhaps the most newsworthy event of the week in Yerevan. Regardless, it &#8220;fits&#8221; in with my comments that appear to have incurred the wrath of &#8220;someone&#8221; in connection to the state of civil society and the media in Armenia.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m also a bit disappointed that RFE/RL didn&#8217;t cover the story on its English-language news pages although it&#8217;s main audience are radio listeners. The audio of the broadcast is probably already on yesterday&#8217;s archive page at <a href='http://www.rferl.org' rel='nofollow'>http://www.rferl.org</a>. Maybe they&#8217;ll have something later online although as I said, its radio coverage is probably more important. </p>
	<p>Still, it has to be said that this was quite a show of strength and unity by Indian students in Armenia. Seen nothing like it from Armenians in the 7 years I&#8217;ve been here.
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		<title>by: Darwin  Jamgochian</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1526</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:47:46 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Racism in Armenia  is alive and well.  I remember a article by John Hughes, editor of Armenianow.com, remarking that he was dodging stones after a soccer match while a Polish team was visiting. His blond hair apparently didn't sit well in his host country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Racism in Armenia  is alive and well.  I remember a article by John Hughes, editor of Armenianow.com, remarking that he was dodging stones after a soccer match while a Polish team was visiting. His blond hair apparently didn&#8217;t sit well in his host country.
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		<title>by: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1525</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:57:22 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1525</guid>
					<description>I love it when stupid idiots react against issues that need to be tackled in Armenia so allowed the above comment to go through. Of course, the person making the comment is too cowardly to use their own name and more than that, can't even give an example of something I've posted on this blog that has not been true or which has been a lie.

Basically, I love such comments coz they illustrate how stupid and far removed from reality such people are. Keep them coming. They make me realize that what I'm doing is hitting home. Anyway, to the anonymous person who's hiding their identity, I know from your ip address that you're in Armenia and I can guess who you are. Incidently, it's usually those people that conceal their identity or hide behind masks that need a psychologist.

 Anyway, for many reasons, it makes me especially happy to recieve this comment. Finally, real information is coming out from Armenia and its precisely this fact that concerns these people. Means I'm doing well in bursting their bubble in Armenia which is usually based on monopolizing connections in civil society in order to gain power, money or both.

BTW: The media and youth here is an issue because it's part and parcel of the same corrupt and stagnant system that meant this student died. How the incident is being reported and not being reported is also starting to concern those Indian students I've spoken to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I love it when stupid idiots react against issues that need to be tackled in Armenia so allowed the above comment to go through. Of course, the person making the comment is too cowardly to use their own name and more than that, can&#8217;t even give an example of something I&#8217;ve posted on this blog that has not been true or which has been a lie.</p>
	<p>Basically, I love such comments coz they illustrate how stupid and far removed from reality such people are. Keep them coming. They make me realize that what I&#8217;m doing is hitting home. Anyway, to the anonymous person who&#8217;s hiding their identity, I know from your ip address that you&#8217;re in Armenia and I can guess who you are. Incidently, it&#8217;s usually those people that conceal their identity or hide behind masks that need a psychologist.</p>
	<p> Anyway, for many reasons, it makes me especially happy to recieve this comment. Finally, real information is coming out from Armenia and its precisely this fact that concerns these people. Means I&#8217;m doing well in bursting their bubble in Armenia which is usually based on monopolizing connections in civil society in order to gain power, money or both.</p>
	<p>BTW: The media and youth here is an issue because it&#8217;s part and parcel of the same corrupt and stagnant system that meant this student died. How the incident is being reported and not being reported is also starting to concern those Indian students I&#8217;ve spoken to.
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		<title>by: you are an idiot</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1524</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:44:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Onik, you are such a liar and an ass. You make an ass out of yourself every time you make an assumption, and you're always wrong. Your mind is so twisted that you take a tragic story like this one to abuse and mock those who are not in anyway related to this story or the media's coverage of this story. You are so far from the truth that you don't realize you're living in your own twisted make-believe world. You need a psychologist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Onik, you are such a liar and an ass. You make an ass out of yourself every time you make an assumption, and you&#8217;re always wrong. Your mind is so twisted that you take a tragic story like this one to abuse and mock those who are not in anyway related to this story or the media&#8217;s coverage of this story. You are so far from the truth that you don&#8217;t realize you&#8217;re living in your own twisted make-believe world. You need a psychologist.
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		<title>by: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1523</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:40:00 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>It makes the difference in so much that apart from 1.5 hours that I was not there, there were no cameras or microphones marked with the Armenia TV logo. Either they were hiding or more likely they turned up for only a maximum of 1.5 hours of the 6 hours of procedings which should have been headline news in Yerevan.

Armenia TV sucks. Withdraw your financial support please, Mr Cafesjian, or get rid of Bagrat Sarkisyan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It makes the difference in so much that apart from 1.5 hours that I was not there, there were no cameras or microphones marked with the Armenia TV logo. Either they were hiding or more likely they turned up for only a maximum of 1.5 hours of the 6 hours of procedings which should have been headline news in Yerevan.</p>
	<p>Armenia TV sucks. Withdraw your financial support please, Mr Cafesjian, or get rid of Bagrat Sarkisyan.
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		<title>by: Myrthe</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1521</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:37:32 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>What time I passed by seems irrelevant to me. I passed by in a marshrutka, so I couldn't see if and what journalists were there. As I said, I only learned about the reason for the protest through tv.  I just wanted to point out that the protest in whatever form did make it to the Armenia TV news. Which in no way should be taken as support for Armenia TV or the Armenian state sponsored/influenced media in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What time I passed by seems irrelevant to me. I passed by in a marshrutka, so I couldn&#8217;t see if and what journalists were there. As I said, I only learned about the reason for the protest through tv.  I just wanted to point out that the protest in whatever form did make it to the Armenia TV news. Which in no way should be taken as support for Armenia TV or the Armenian state sponsored/influenced media in general.
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		<title>by: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1518</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:04:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>No, Myrthe -- Not contrary to my suspicions. First, you don't say when you passed by and therefore as I was gone for 1-2 hours inbetween 2 visits, it means that Armenia TV turned up late. Alternatively, if they were there when I was there then it means that like H1 they are using cameras and microphones that are not marked for times when demonstrations are planned. Both H1 and Armenia TV are believed to have a direct role in the pushing state propaganda when elections are falsified and misreporting opposition protests. In this case, it is unlikley that they needed to hide with Indian students, but anyway.

Long and the short of it is that there were NO cameras marked with the H1 and Armenia TV logs when I was there earlier in the day, and no film crews at the night vigil when I arrived. At the meeting with the Indian Ambassador and Tigran Torosian in Yerevan State Medical University late last night, there were not journalists or film crews there. I can say that quite categorically because journalists were asked to leave and I was the only one outside the auditorium.

Anyway, no TV news film crews covered this demonstration as they normally would in any other country ie if Armenia TV was there with marked cameras and microphones they got there far too late and didn't stay long. If they now use unmarked cameras and microphones for demonstrations it says a lot about how they're perceived in Armenia. Regardless if some slot on Armenia TV covered it, I want to know if it made the main headlines on Armenia TV's normal news programmes. I'm told by Zarchka that she didn't see any news coverage when she was flicking through the channels yesterday.

Anyway, regarding news coverage of demonstrations, here's an email I received from a MAJOR pro-democracy international organization yesterday which says it all, I think.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I was recently at an event that I was sure you'd be willing to witness and capture but the organizers didn't know you. SO I decided I should get youth to know each other. It's Lala Aslikyan from Huys NGO who was one of the organizers of yesterday's protest action regarding the unjust trial of Razmik Sargsyan (you may have heard)
who is accused fo murduring people during army service, which was in fact done by higher ranks. 

Anyways, there was that protest action and naturally no media ever turned up though had been informed. So I thought it was something you'd be interested to cover. If you send me your cell or other contact details, I'll give it to Lala and she'll keep touch with you for this type of events.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Incidently, this was also true for major opposition protests in Armenia since 2003. It's also worth noting that apart from French-Armenian Max Sivaslian, Photolure and two young kids photographing, I saw NONE of Armenia's &quot;great&quot; photojournalists cover this event. Experience has shown they only work on issues when there's money in it and they steer clear from protests demonstrations in general. 

Max Sivaslian and I, for example, along with Photolure and Arminfo were the only photographers that covered the presidential elections as photojournalists should have. Others didn't even bother to turn up for the main protest demonstration in February and March 2003. In April 2004 one photojournalist even told me he wouldn't risk getting his camera smashed by police even though it meant that he was effectively not doing his job.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No, Myrthe &#8212; Not contrary to my suspicions. First, you don&#8217;t say when you passed by and therefore as I was gone for 1-2 hours inbetween 2 visits, it means that Armenia TV turned up late. Alternatively, if they were there when I was there then it means that like H1 they are using cameras and microphones that are not marked for times when demonstrations are planned. Both H1 and Armenia TV are believed to have a direct role in the pushing state propaganda when elections are falsified and misreporting opposition protests. In this case, it is unlikley that they needed to hide with Indian students, but anyway.</p>
	<p>Long and the short of it is that there were NO cameras marked with the H1 and Armenia TV logs when I was there earlier in the day, and no film crews at the night vigil when I arrived. At the meeting with the Indian Ambassador and Tigran Torosian in Yerevan State Medical University late last night, there were not journalists or film crews there. I can say that quite categorically because journalists were asked to leave and I was the only one outside the auditorium.</p>
	<p>Anyway, no TV news film crews covered this demonstration as they normally would in any other country ie if Armenia TV was there with marked cameras and microphones they got there far too late and didn&#8217;t stay long. If they now use unmarked cameras and microphones for demonstrations it says a lot about how they&#8217;re perceived in Armenia. Regardless if some slot on Armenia TV covered it, I want to know if it made the main headlines on Armenia TV&#8217;s normal news programmes. I&#8217;m told by Zarchka that she didn&#8217;t see any news coverage when she was flicking through the channels yesterday.</p>
	<p>Anyway, regarding news coverage of demonstrations, here&#8217;s an email I received from a MAJOR pro-democracy international organization yesterday which says it all, I think.</p>
	<blockquote><p>I was recently at an event that I was sure you&#8217;d be willing to witness and capture but the organizers didn&#8217;t know you. SO I decided I should get youth to know each other. It&#8217;s Lala Aslikyan from Huys NGO who was one of the organizers of yesterday&#8217;s protest action regarding the unjust trial of Razmik Sargsyan (you may have heard)<br />
who is accused fo murduring people during army service, which was in fact done by higher ranks. </p>
	<p>Anyways, there was that protest action and naturally no media ever turned up though had been informed. So I thought it was something you&#8217;d be interested to cover. If you send me your cell or other contact details, I&#8217;ll give it to Lala and she&#8217;ll keep touch with you for this type of events.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Incidently, this was also true for major opposition protests in Armenia since 2003. It&#8217;s also worth noting that apart from French-Armenian Max Sivaslian, Photolure and two young kids photographing, I saw NONE of Armenia&#8217;s &#8220;great&#8221; photojournalists cover this event. Experience has shown they only work on issues when there&#8217;s money in it and they steer clear from protests demonstrations in general. </p>
	<p>Max Sivaslian and I, for example, along with Photolure and Arminfo were the only photographers that covered the presidential elections as photojournalists should have. Others didn&#8217;t even bother to turn up for the main protest demonstration in February and March 2003. In April 2004 one photojournalist even told me he wouldn&#8217;t risk getting his camera smashed by police even though it meant that he was effectively not doing his job.
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		<title>by: Myrthe</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1517</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:37:05 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I passed by the parliament last night on my way home and noticed the protest, but from the marshrutka I couldn't figure out what was going on. I found out at home, because I accidentally came across it at a news bulletin. It was Armenia TV's  &quot;Jam@&quot;, so contrary to what you suspected, they did indeed pay attention to the protest and what lead up to it. They had some interviews on the spot. However, don't ask me for any details of the bulletin, I was happy enough to understand enough to figure out what had happened. By the way, they mentioned it took even an hour for the ambulance to show up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I passed by the parliament last night on my way home and noticed the protest, but from the marshrutka I couldn&#8217;t figure out what was going on. I found out at home, because I accidentally came across it at a news bulletin. It was Armenia TV&#8217;s  &#8220;Jam@&#8221;, so contrary to what you suspected, they did indeed pay attention to the protest and what lead up to it. They had some interviews on the spot. However, don&#8217;t ask me for any details of the bulletin, I was happy enough to understand enough to figure out what had happened. By the way, they mentioned it took even an hour for the ambulance to show up!
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		<title>by: Darwin  Jamgochian</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1516</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:18:42 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>What would we do without your candid reporting Onnik? Retribution in Armenia is a given.   Incidentally, as an Armenian/American, I find it hard to believe that someone's misfortune is scoffed at by my compatriots in the motherland.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What would we do without your candid reporting Onnik? Retribution in Armenia is a given.   Incidentally, as an Armenian/American, I find it hard to believe that someone&#8217;s misfortune is scoffed at by my compatriots in the motherland.
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		<title>by: Senthilkumar</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2006/04/20/indian-students-in-yerevan-demand-justice/#comment-1512</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:04:33 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Hats off to u Onnik....Great that atleast you have covered this genuine protest. Hell with the indifference of the  concerned authorities resulting in the student's death.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hats off to u Onnik&#8230;.Great that atleast you have covered this genuine protest. Hell with the indifference of the  concerned authorities resulting in the student&#8217;s death.</p>
	<p>Senthilkumar
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