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	<title>Comments on: Saddam Execution Video Scandal</title>
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		<title>by: jordan</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3104</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>fair enough, maybe at the next gv conference 2007-08 we can do this over a few beers...take care, jordan

ps. opinions without justifcation are blind...that's my opinion...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>fair enough, maybe at the next gv conference 2007-08 we can do this over a few beers&#8230;take care, jordan</p>
	<p>ps. opinions without justifcation are blind&#8230;that&#8217;s my opinion&#8230;
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		<title>by: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3102</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3102</guid>
					<description>Listen Jordan, I am not going to explain my position for three simple reasons.

i) This is an Armenia blog where that takes preference. I'm sure you can find all the debate and discussion you want on Middle Eastern and Iraq-centered blogs.

ii) This blog is something I do when I'm not working, and I have some work to clear. Because of that, and point i), I cannot spend much time on engaging in discussion on issues such as this.

iii) I'm happy to accept your opinion and let you state it on my blog. However, the only person who seems to be saying that anyone's &quot;opinion is misguided&quot; is you. 

Again, that's up to you, you've said it, and now I have to get back to what I was doing.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Listen Jordan, I am not going to explain my position for three simple reasons.</p>
	<p>i) This is an Armenia blog where that takes preference. I&#8217;m sure you can find all the debate and discussion you want on Middle Eastern and Iraq-centered blogs.</p>
	<p>ii) This blog is something I do when I&#8217;m not working, and I have some work to clear. Because of that, and point i), I cannot spend much time on engaging in discussion on issues such as this.</p>
	<p>iii) I&#8217;m happy to accept your opinion and let you state it on my blog. However, the only person who seems to be saying that anyone&#8217;s &#8220;opinion is misguided&#8221; is you. </p>
	<p>Again, that&#8217;s up to you, you&#8217;ve said it, and now I have to get back to what I was doing.
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		<title>by: jordan</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3101</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I fear that if we do not understand why we hold an opinion, we will never know if it deserves our loyalty.  If you can't explain why you believe something, then how do you know it's the best possible opinion for you to have? 

If all we can do is say you have yours and i have mine, then what will decide whose opinion is more informed, rational, and thought-thru, and whose opinion we should accept? And more importantly, what gives us the authority to say someone else's opinion is misguided or ill-informed, or simply is nonsense? If we don't appeal to reasoned arguments to justify our opinions, then  it will descend into might makes right, or mob-rules (perhaps this is democracy for you?)? Is this ok for you? 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I fear that if we do not understand why we hold an opinion, we will never know if it deserves our loyalty.  If you can&#8217;t explain why you believe something, then how do you know it&#8217;s the best possible opinion for you to have? </p>
	<p>If all we can do is say you have yours and i have mine, then what will decide whose opinion is more informed, rational, and thought-thru, and whose opinion we should accept? And more importantly, what gives us the authority to say someone else&#8217;s opinion is misguided or ill-informed, or simply is nonsense? If we don&#8217;t appeal to reasoned arguments to justify our opinions, then  it will descend into might makes right, or mob-rules (perhaps this is democracy for you?)? Is this ok for you?
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		<title>by: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3098</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 11:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3098</guid>
					<description>Don't think I am appealing for support, am I? I'm just providing a complilation of information I encountered online regarding a major news event. It interested me, and so I posted it to keep this blog current. 

Like I said, I've made my opinion clear. I don't believe in the death penalty and I think they made a mistake in how they executed Saddam, but time will tell if that's the case or not. Otherwise, like I also said, despite my objection to capital pubishment, I'm not shedding a tear for Saddam.

And that's about as far as it goes. I have my opinion, you have yours, and I'm not appealing to anyone or anything to say or do anything different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Don&#8217;t think I am appealing for support, am I? I&#8217;m just providing a complilation of information I encountered online regarding a major news event. It interested me, and so I posted it to keep this blog current. </p>
	<p>Like I said, I&#8217;ve made my opinion clear. I don&#8217;t believe in the death penalty and I think they made a mistake in how they executed Saddam, but time will tell if that&#8217;s the case or not. Otherwise, like I also said, despite my objection to capital pubishment, I&#8217;m not shedding a tear for Saddam.</p>
	<p>And that&#8217;s about as far as it goes. I have my opinion, you have yours, and I&#8217;m not appealing to anyone or anything to say or do anything different.
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		<title>by: jordan</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3096</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3096</guid>
					<description>Thanks again, it's too bad there isn't more discussion here...but perhaps it's about quality not quantity...

MY beef isn't with the fact that you have your own opinion, of course not...but I am very concerned about how people justify and account for their opinions...So, if you say, as you do, that you don't believe that democracy and human rights can co-exist with capital punishment, I want to know on what basis you make this link and to what reasons you appeal for support? This is the crucial area for informed discussion...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks again, it&#8217;s too bad there isn&#8217;t more discussion here&#8230;but perhaps it&#8217;s about quality not quantity&#8230;</p>
	<p>MY beef isn&#8217;t with the fact that you have your own opinion, of course not&#8230;but I am very concerned about how people justify and account for their opinions&#8230;So, if you say, as you do, that you don&#8217;t believe that democracy and human rights can co-exist with capital punishment, I want to know on what basis you make this link and to what reasons you appeal for support? This is the crucial area for informed discussion&#8230;</p>
	<p>Jordan
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		<title>by: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3094</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3094</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What do you think we should say about Saddam’s death?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jordan, I think everyone has the right to their own opinion, which is why your comments are welcome on this site just as I've made mine. I oppose the death penalty, but admit that I don't shed any tears now that Saddam is dead.

However, I do think that his execution was carried out in an inappropiate manner, and in a way that will make him into a martyr for some, and lead to more sectarian violence. 

Moreover, I don't support that death penalty and am glad we don't have it in Armenia or Europe. Indeed, I don't believe that the concept of democracy and human rights can co-exist with the idea of capital punishment.

But just my own personal opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>What do you think we should say about Saddam’s death?</p></blockquote>
	<p>Jordan, I think everyone has the right to their own opinion, which is why your comments are welcome on this site just as I&#8217;ve made mine. I oppose the death penalty, but admit that I don&#8217;t shed any tears now that Saddam is dead.</p>
	<p>However, I do think that his execution was carried out in an inappropiate manner, and in a way that will make him into a martyr for some, and lead to more sectarian violence. </p>
	<p>Moreover, I don&#8217;t support that death penalty and am glad we don&#8217;t have it in Armenia or Europe. Indeed, I don&#8217;t believe that the concept of democracy and human rights can co-exist with the idea of capital punishment.</p>
	<p>But just my own personal opinion.
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		<title>by: jordan</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3081</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3081</guid>
					<description>What do you think we should say about  Saddam's death? 

And what do you appeal to to justify your position? And are there absolute values that transcend all cultures, and how should these values be spread throughout the world? And who in your view should (and should not) do it? Remember that just because most people accept a value as universal doesn't mean that it is at all or should be...

Please recognize the situatedness of your own position...I think the hypocrite argument so often waved-about will hit closer to home...

And I do appreciate you publishing my post...because I do feel that it is the image that has the power...which of course takes us away from reason onto to the emotional level...all we have here is a power-play, one self-righteous group trying to impose its will on others...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What do you think we should say about  Saddam&#8217;s death? </p>
	<p>And what do you appeal to to justify your position? And are there absolute values that transcend all cultures, and how should these values be spread throughout the world? And who in your view should (and should not) do it? Remember that just because most people accept a value as universal doesn&#8217;t mean that it is at all or should be&#8230;</p>
	<p>Please recognize the situatedness of your own position&#8230;I think the hypocrite argument so often waved-about will hit closer to home&#8230;</p>
	<p>And I do appreciate you publishing my post&#8230;because I do feel that it is the image that has the power&#8230;which of course takes us away from reason onto to the emotional level&#8230;all we have here is a power-play, one self-righteous group trying to impose its will on others&#8230;
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		<title>by: Onnik</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3080</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sure, Jordan. Incidently, I don't shed any tears now Saddam is dead although I think the video will do more harm than good in Iraq. Incidently, I spent a number of years working with Kurds in London and so now all about Halabja, for example. But, in my opinion, this is not the point. Firstly, I don't believe in the concept of an eye for an eye and don't support the death penalty. 

It's also somewhat hypocritical for the U.S. and U;K. to argue for Saddam's execution when many of those he tortured and killed were done so with instruments and training supplied by the West when it suited them. Indeed, had Saddam not invaded Kuwait then he would have been alive, still in power, and in relation with the West no matter what unspeakable evil he represented.

Anyway, that's it, really. The guy was a monster and I don't feel sorry he's dead. However, even if the death penalty was to be used, it should have been done in a more &quot;humane&quot; way than this, or are we saying that it's okay to humiliate victims just as he did? Are we saying we can do the same and we're no better? Anyway, that's it, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sure, Jordan. Incidently, I don&#8217;t shed any tears now Saddam is dead although I think the video will do more harm than good in Iraq. Incidently, I spent a number of years working with Kurds in London and so now all about Halabja, for example. But, in my opinion, this is not the point. Firstly, I don&#8217;t believe in the concept of an eye for an eye and don&#8217;t support the death penalty. </p>
	<p>It&#8217;s also somewhat hypocritical for the U.S. and U;K. to argue for Saddam&#8217;s execution when many of those he tortured and killed were done so with instruments and training supplied by the West when it suited them. Indeed, had Saddam not invaded Kuwait then he would have been alive, still in power, and in relation with the West no matter what unspeakable evil he represented.</p>
	<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s it, really. The guy was a monster and I don&#8217;t feel sorry he&#8217;s dead. However, even if the death penalty was to be used, it should have been done in a more &#8220;humane&#8221; way than this, or are we saying that it&#8217;s okay to humiliate victims just as he did? Are we saying we can do the same and we&#8217;re no better? Anyway, that&#8217;s it, really.
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		<title>by: jordan</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3079</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>
Interesting post, and in the spirit of balance , I invite you to include these videos on your site as well (link is below).  Saddam's style of punishment (not for the weak). I suggest Video #2 is a good start.

http://fdd.typepad.com/fdd/2006/01/alert_saddams_c.html

Without the leaked video of Saddam's hanging, I'm sure the reactions would have been on a different level (perhaps more cognitive), so of course, the visual images are crucial (just think abotu the Rodney King video) to one's argument...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interesting post, and in the spirit of balance , I invite you to include these videos on your site as well (link is below).  Saddam&#8217;s style of punishment (not for the weak). I suggest Video #2 is a good start.</p>
	<p><a href='http://fdd.typepad.com/fdd/2006/01/alert_saddams_c.html' rel='nofollow'>http://fdd.typepad.com/fdd/2006/01/alert_saddams_c.html</a></p>
	<p>Without the leaked video of Saddam&#8217;s hanging, I&#8217;m sure the reactions would have been on a different level (perhaps more cognitive), so of course, the visual images are crucial (just think abotu the Rodney King video) to one&#8217;s argument&#8230;
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		<title>by: nazarian</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/01/03/saddam-video/#comment-3036</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 07:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Obviously, the Iraqi government is making a big deal out of the leaked video. And as usual, they (any most of governments) are trying to solve the wrong problem. The problem is not that there was an unauthorized video but the way Saddam was treated. How can they try to make progress if they still have executions (they are under the US occupation and may not have much of a say in this area as Mr Bush is fond of executions himself). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Obviously, the Iraqi government is making a big deal out of the leaked video. And as usual, they (any most of governments) are trying to solve the wrong problem. The problem is not that there was an unauthorized video but the way Saddam was treated. How can they try to make progress if they still have executions (they are under the US occupation and may not have much of a say in this area as Mr Bush is fond of executions himself).
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