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	<title>Comments on: The Reality of Diaspora-Armenia Relations</title>
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		<title>by: Gregory Gharib</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/22/the-reality-of-diaspora-armenia-relations/#comment-4662</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:58:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Onik,

While I can't argue that there are two sides to every story, I am here to present the side of Glendale team from the longest tenured player for Glendale.  I have been a member of the Glendale A team for 18 years and been the team's true captain.  My perspective should be included in the discussions about the basketball match between Glendale and Instanbul. 

We did watch the game the day before against Gyumri and noticed the Instanbul played a brand of physical and intimidating basketball.  We respected their abilities and took notice of our difficulty in match-up.  We even considered them a top 5 team.  W e physically and mentally prepared before the game and stood strong against them.  While the game unfolded, it was evident they could not match our  strength and we outplayed them physically.  We have reached the final game twice and been a third place team twice.  

They started to show desperation because they were losing the game and became frustrated. They resorted to unsportsmanlike conduct when they took the ball during a small hand to hand scuffle and threw the ball at my forward's groin area. As a good team should, the rest of the team backed up the player who was victimized. The comments that were made in the ensuing exchanges were standard comments made  in a typical argument. You insult and say things derogatory....But nothing was said to insult heritage or country of origin. We are all Armenian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Onik,</p>
	<p>While I can&#8217;t argue that there are two sides to every story, I am here to present the side of Glendale team from the longest tenured player for Glendale.  I have been a member of the Glendale A team for 18 years and been the team&#8217;s true captain.  My perspective should be included in the discussions about the basketball match between Glendale and Instanbul. </p>
	<p>We did watch the game the day before against Gyumri and noticed the Instanbul played a brand of physical and intimidating basketball.  We respected their abilities and took notice of our difficulty in match-up.  We even considered them a top 5 team.  W e physically and mentally prepared before the game and stood strong against them.  While the game unfolded, it was evident they could not match our  strength and we outplayed them physically.  We have reached the final game twice and been a third place team twice.  </p>
	<p>They started to show desperation because they were losing the game and became frustrated. They resorted to unsportsmanlike conduct when they took the ball during a small hand to hand scuffle and threw the ball at my forward&#8217;s groin area. As a good team should, the rest of the team backed up the player who was victimized. The comments that were made in the ensuing exchanges were standard comments made  in a typical argument. You insult and say things derogatory&#8230;.But nothing was said to insult heritage or country of origin. We are all Armenian.
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		<title>by: HRANT   KAVOUKDJIAN,EGYPT</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/22/the-reality-of-diaspora-armenia-relations/#comment-4502</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:31:02 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>hi,,
i am hrant from egypt,,during the past days i've  read alot of comments about the fighting between the cairo &amp;amp; yerevan team, some supported cairo players other yerevan's,,,, i cant say which team was the cause of this fighting  as  i wasn't there but i must tell u that  i was shocked  when i heared this  news.......both teams were  the losers ,the cairo team was taken to hospital &amp;amp; the yerevan's was disqualified &amp;amp; taken to the police station,,,,besides  the  armenian brotherhood  spirit  for which such events  are held was lost....
let me be neutral in my comment without supporting any of the sides ,although iam an egyptian armenian &amp;amp; those injured are my friends:
i think that yerevan team was wrong &amp;amp; it  shouldn&quot;t have used violance whatever the reasons were,they justify themselves saying that  the cairo team was playing rough,let me ask : Is this a reason to hit your armenian  brothers your guests by chairs? i dont think so, if they were  rough u could simply complain to the refrees...
at the end i want to say bravo for  the  cairo delegation for  going to the police station &amp;amp; dropping the charges  against the yerevan players &amp;amp;setting them free... i hope that  such painfull events doesnt take place  any more,&amp;amp; god bless our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>hi,,<br />
i am hrant from egypt,,during the past days i&#8217;ve  read alot of comments about the fighting between the cairo &amp; yerevan team, some supported cairo players other yerevan&#8217;s,,,, i cant say which team was the cause of this fighting  as  i wasn&#8217;t there but i must tell u that  i was shocked  when i heared this  news&#8230;&#8230;.both teams were  the losers ,the cairo team was taken to hospital &amp; the yerevan&#8217;s was disqualified &amp; taken to the police station,,,,besides  the  armenian brotherhood  spirit  for which such events  are held was lost&#8230;.<br />
let me be neutral in my comment without supporting any of the sides ,although iam an egyptian armenian &amp; those injured are my friends:<br />
i think that yerevan team was wrong &amp; it  shouldn&#8221;t have used violance whatever the reasons were,they justify themselves saying that  the cairo team was playing rough,let me ask : Is this a reason to hit your armenian  brothers your guests by chairs? i dont think so, if they were  rough u could simply complain to the refrees&#8230;<br />
at the end i want to say bravo for  the  cairo delegation for  going to the police station &amp; dropping the charges  against the yerevan players &amp;setting them free&#8230; i hope that  such painfull events doesnt take place  any more,&amp; god bless our nation.
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		<title>by: Denis Tchobnian</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/22/the-reality-of-diaspora-armenia-relations/#comment-4492</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:15:29 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/22/the-reality-of-diaspora-armenia-relations/#comment-4492</guid>
					<description>Hi,
Someone know why the Yerevan Team of mini-football were so helped by the judges to dont lose to Brasilian Team ?
By the first time, Yerevan were losing by 3x0 and 2 guys from Brazil were turned out to Yerevan could change the result to 5x5.
The same happend in the next game of Brazil with Vanadzor.
Terrible.
How can I call another guys to play the next Pan Armenian Games (2011) with this behavior of the Comission of Pan Armenian Games.
see you,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi,<br />
Someone know why the Yerevan Team of mini-football were so helped by the judges to dont lose to Brasilian Team ?<br />
By the first time, Yerevan were losing by 3x0 and 2 guys from Brazil were turned out to Yerevan could change the result to 5x5.<br />
The same happend in the next game of Brazil with Vanadzor.<br />
Terrible.<br />
How can I call another guys to play the next Pan Armenian Games (2011) with this behavior of the Comission of Pan Armenian Games.<br />
see you,
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		<title>by: Eso</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/22/the-reality-of-diaspora-armenia-relations/#comment-4464</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:27:21 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes we're all culturally different,  yes we're not going to mesh 100% though we still represent different facets of &lt;b&gt;Armenian&lt;/b&gt; culture  whether certain people accept it, or not.

So why when coming together for a show of unity do we do the opposite and act like turds?  I'll tell you why...  Vested interests.

Be it politics, business, or simple pride, after years of seperation our minds are ingrained and conditioned with crap that certain community figures feed us for their own self-gain.

Without such ill guiding forces we're just Armenians that want what's best for Armenians.  It's another case of general human stupidity.  It's not some unique national issue restricted to Armenian communities.  All seperated communities begin to identify themselves differently, but at the core, blood will always remain.

To curb it, as Tamar said, we have to set an example.  Armenians need to stand and fight for what's morally sound at the grass roots level; it could be stopping idle gossip, or including a new migrant in your outings, standing against divisive  behaviour at the church, or whatever.  People just need to be a bit braver and speak out.  So what if you lose a few friends, more will take their place, good people like honesty and courage...

Also I've been told by several reliable sources that honesty and courage is a plus with women.  Not a second to lose! Go people! Go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes we&#8217;re all culturally different,  yes we&#8217;re not going to mesh 100% though we still represent different facets of <b>Armenian</b> culture  whether certain people accept it, or not.</p>
	<p>So why when coming together for a show of unity do we do the opposite and act like turds?  I&#8217;ll tell you why&#8230;  Vested interests.</p>
	<p>Be it politics, business, or simple pride, after years of seperation our minds are ingrained and conditioned with crap that certain community figures feed us for their own self-gain.</p>
	<p>Without such ill guiding forces we&#8217;re just Armenians that want what&#8217;s best for Armenians.  It&#8217;s another case of general human stupidity.  It&#8217;s not some unique national issue restricted to Armenian communities.  All seperated communities begin to identify themselves differently, but at the core, blood will always remain.</p>
	<p>To curb it, as Tamar said, we have to set an example.  Armenians need to stand and fight for what&#8217;s morally sound at the grass roots level; it could be stopping idle gossip, or including a new migrant in your outings, standing against divisive  behaviour at the church, or whatever.  People just need to be a bit braver and speak out.  So what if you lose a few friends, more will take their place, good people like honesty and courage&#8230;</p>
	<p>Also I&#8217;ve been told by several reliable sources that honesty and courage is a plus with women.  Not a second to lose! Go people! Go!
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		<title>by: Tamar</title>
		<link>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/22/the-reality-of-diaspora-armenia-relations/#comment-4437</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:44:27 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/08/22/the-reality-of-diaspora-armenia-relations/#comment-4437</guid>
					<description>Hi Onnik,

Wow interesting commentary to say the least!  My jaw dropped to read the comments written in Lragir. Frankly because it was really is the opinion of your average Armenian being honest and open about sentiments on this topic.  Just look at this comment, &quot;Besides, all the sides of the Fatherland should be shown to the Diasporans, not only the sights but also the hospitals.&quot;

As a diasporan living in Armenia for two years, I saw and felt this tension on a daily basis.  As an individual diasporan, there really is only one thing you can do about it and that is to set an example and consciously try not to fulfill all of the stereotypes about Diasporans. 

And as you said, &quot; If people can recognize this perhaps steps can be made to finally lessen tensions and everybody can move on. Burying our heads in the sand and refusing to admit it is hardly going to help anyone, and not least Armenia-Diaspora relations. Nobody said it it was going to be easy, but at least let’s be honest about it. 

The problem is, I don't see Diasporan-Armenian relations moving towards that direction.  In fact, I see it moving towards the opposite direction.  

A little bit more pessimistic than you are on this subject I guess.  
Thanks for the post, though! 

cheers, Tamar

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Onnik,</p>
	<p>Wow interesting commentary to say the least!  My jaw dropped to read the comments written in Lragir. Frankly because it was really is the opinion of your average Armenian being honest and open about sentiments on this topic.  Just look at this comment, &#8220;Besides, all the sides of the Fatherland should be shown to the Diasporans, not only the sights but also the hospitals.&#8221;</p>
	<p>As a diasporan living in Armenia for two years, I saw and felt this tension on a daily basis.  As an individual diasporan, there really is only one thing you can do about it and that is to set an example and consciously try not to fulfill all of the stereotypes about Diasporans. </p>
	<p>And as you said, &#8221; If people can recognize this perhaps steps can be made to finally lessen tensions and everybody can move on. Burying our heads in the sand and refusing to admit it is hardly going to help anyone, and not least Armenia-Diaspora relations. Nobody said it it was going to be easy, but at least let’s be honest about it. </p>
	<p>The problem is, I don&#8217;t see Diasporan-Armenian relations moving towards that direction.  In fact, I see it moving towards the opposite direction.  </p>
	<p>A little bit more pessimistic than you are on this subject I guess.<br />
Thanks for the post, though! </p>
	<p>cheers, Tamar
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