Comments on: Turkey Strikes PKK Camps in Iraq http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/ Journalism and Photography from Armenia and the Surrounding Region Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:58:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Onnik http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4890 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:40:58 +0100 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4890 <blockquote>Armenia’s position on Turkey’s incursion in Iraq coincides with U.S. stance 25.10.2007 16:20 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenia’s position on Turkey’s incursion into northern Iraq coincides with the stance of the United States and international community, Armenian Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian told a news conference in Yerevan. “The Kurdish problem should be resolved peacefully. We think that Ankara’s measures are not proportionate to PKK actions. Turkey has chosen a method that arouses anxiety in Armenia and other states of the region. Actually, the cross-border operation will not have a direct influence on Yerevan. However, situation in the region is complicated and shaky and this incursion will deteriorate it,” the Minister said. </blockquote>

Armenia’s position on Turkey’s incursion in Iraq coincides with U.S. stance
25.10.2007 16:20

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenia’s position on Turkey’s incursion into northern Iraq coincides with the stance of the United States and international community, Armenian Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian told a news conference in Yerevan.

“The Kurdish problem should be resolved peacefully. We think that Ankara’s measures are not proportionate to PKK actions. Turkey has chosen a method that arouses anxiety in Armenia and other states of the region. Actually, the cross-border operation will not have a direct influence on Yerevan. However, situation in the region is complicated and shaky and this incursion will deteriorate it,” the Minister said.

]]> by: Onnik http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4889 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:34:53 +0100 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4889 Well, PKK camps and 3,000 guerillas are in Iraq whereas there are a handful of such types here. Plus, the Russians control the border although it is said not to be tight in every place. Still, the main point is that PKK in Iraq are crossing the border before retreating back. That's not the case in Armenia and those comments in Armenia, including from some real insignificant voices such as the Armenian Union of Aryans, are all a little stupid. Now, if Russia weren't guarding the border, but that's not the case. Sure, if there were 3,000 PKK guerrillas nipping over and engaging in military action before coming back, but again, that's not the case. It's just Armenia considering its more significant than it actually is, in my opinion. Besides, Turkey would also first seek parliamentary approval as they did with Iraq, so if such an unlikely scenario were to come into existence, there would be some warning. Right, and like Turkey would effectively declare war on Russia as a result. The level of thinking in Armenia from small nationalist groups never ceases to amaze me. Well, PKK camps and 3,000 guerillas are in Iraq whereas there are a handful of such types here. Plus, the Russians control the border although it is said not to be tight in every place. Still, the main point is that PKK in Iraq are crossing the border before retreating back.

That’s not the case in Armenia and those comments in Armenia, including from some real insignificant voices such as the Armenian Union of Aryans, are all a little stupid. Now, if Russia weren’t guarding the border, but that’s not the case. Sure, if there were 3,000 PKK guerrillas nipping over and engaging in military action before coming back, but again, that’s not the case.

It’s just Armenia considering its more significant than it actually is, in my opinion. Besides, Turkey would also first seek parliamentary approval as they did with Iraq, so if such an unlikely scenario were to come into existence, there would be some warning. Right, and like Turkey would effectively declare war on Russia as a result.

The level of thinking in Armenia from small nationalist groups never ceases to amaze me.

]]> by: Paul http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4888 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:42:41 +0100 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4888 An A1+ article spoke of the dangerous precedent being set with Turkey not respecting the existence of a neighboring border. After all, there are Kurds in Armenia too and from what I've seen of them they have Ocalan sympathies. That would make them a target as well. If Turkey's border with Iraq means nothing why should their border with Armenia mean anything? Obviously though Iraq is such a mess while Armenia's border is locked tight and has border guards along it make the idea Turkey would ever try attacking any sort of presumed PKK camp in Armenia (as if such a thing actually exists?) pretty unthinkable. Then again nobody thought they'd actually go into Cyprus either. Borders really don't mean much to Turkey, do they, this nothing new. An A1+ article spoke of the dangerous precedent being set with Turkey not respecting the existence of a neighboring border. After all, there are Kurds in Armenia too and from what I’ve seen of them they have Ocalan sympathies. That would make them a target as well. If Turkey’s border with Iraq means nothing why should their border with Armenia mean anything?

Obviously though Iraq is such a mess while Armenia’s border is locked tight and has border guards along it make the idea Turkey would ever try attacking any sort of presumed PKK camp in Armenia (as if such a thing actually exists?) pretty unthinkable. Then again nobody thought they’d actually go into Cyprus either. Borders really don’t mean much to Turkey, do they, this nothing new.

]]> by: Onnik http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4885 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:26:39 +0100 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4885 <blockquote>Key discussions on Kurdish crisis BBC, Thursday, 25 October 2007 A high-level Iraqi delegation is expected in Ankara for key talks aimed at stopping attacks by Kurdish fighters based in northern Iraq. In unusually blunt comments, the Turkish foreign minister has said the Iraqis must come up with concrete proposals for ending the crisis. [...] Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan said Turkey was "expecting them to come with concrete proposals and otherwise the visit will have no meaning". [...] "We also said its leaders need to be arrested and extradited to Turkey." [...] In recent days, Turkey has been building up its military presence on the border with Iraq, while PKK rebels have stepped up their attacks against Turkish troops. On Wednesday, Turkey's semi-official Anatolia news agency said Turkish jets had bombed PKK rebel positions. The raids followed an attack by PKK rebels on Sunday in which 12 Turkish soldiers were killed. The Turkish military also says eight soldiers are missing. [...] There are thought to be about 3,000 PKK rebels based in Iraq. They have been blamed for a number of cross-border raids.</blockquote> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7061211.stm

Key discussions on Kurdish crisis
BBC, Thursday, 25 October 2007

A high-level Iraqi delegation is expected in Ankara for key talks aimed at stopping attacks by Kurdish fighters based in northern Iraq.

In unusually blunt comments, the Turkish foreign minister has said the Iraqis must come up with concrete proposals for ending the crisis.

[…]

Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan said Turkey was “expecting them to come with concrete proposals and otherwise the visit will have no meaning”.

[…]

“We also said its leaders need to be arrested and extradited to Turkey.”

[…]

In recent days, Turkey has been building up its military presence on the border with Iraq, while PKK rebels have stepped up their attacks against Turkish troops.

On Wednesday, Turkey’s semi-official Anatolia news agency said Turkish jets had bombed PKK rebel positions.

The raids followed an attack by PKK rebels on Sunday in which 12 Turkish soldiers were killed.

The Turkish military also says eight soldiers are missing.

[…]

There are thought to be about 3,000 PKK rebels based in Iraq. They have been blamed for a number of cross-border raids.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7061211.stm

]]> by: dude http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4880 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:43:07 +0100 http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/10/24/turkey-strikes-pkk-camps-in-iraq/#comment-4880 Well I sure hope that peshmerga and PKK teaches Turks a lesson. Kurds have been receiving training from Israelis and US, as well as latest anti tank and anti air portable missile launchers. Though given the history of PKK, they are not good fighters so chances are high they'll have big casualties. Let's see if this time it'll be different. Well I sure hope that peshmerga and PKK teaches Turks a lesson. Kurds have been receiving training from Israelis and US, as well as latest anti tank and anti air portable missile launchers.

Though given the history of PKK, they are not good fighters so chances are high they’ll have big casualties. Let’s see if this time it’ll be different.

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